Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. 22 Aug 2022 21:27:34Log in. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. No one has control. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. 8 of them are. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. @MHver3. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. Corey Wishnia. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. Also the FB CCG. But simply never happens. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Replying to . ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. ” @MHver3 Jul 22 How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Retweets. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. MHver3 @MHver3. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. He was dealt a horrible“Oregon is as good as already out the door as talks between the Ducks and B10 are intensifying. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Yormark has a vision. Oregon was the third choice as a. We don’t have the endowment they have. 27. Up to 75% would be streaming. Appx $75m per year. MHver3 @MHver3. 5m. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Log in. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. WVU alone makes like $10m from theirs a year. ”@MHver3 · May 25. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. Huge mistake. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. But not the question asked. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. This happened sometime in the past few days. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. 2. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 3. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. 33. and @JimUSFSig. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. Staples: The realignment battle for No. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. 5m. I did want to take a minute to share a few things though. 6. I actually don’t want more western schools. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 03 Apr 2023 22:41:17Morning tidbit:A very prominent booster for Colorado is now threatening to pull all funding from the school If they do not start to actively seek to get out of the sinking ship that is the Pac 12. 26. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. @MHver3. “@BobOThomson Yes. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. To read this post and more, One Month for Only $1. At least for the next 6-8 years. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Might even see a Huskie or two. ”“@ChrisRPhillips B10 dreams for Oregon and Washington left and went to the Bears in Chicago. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. That’s it. 9. ”Notre Dame is not a factor. 13. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. We currently get about $4m for that same content. 239. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Quote Tweets. The only true and reliable "source'' yet to surface on the Pac-12's future. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. ”“B1G without a Notre Dame addition has reached the point of diminishing returns. and @Mountaineer_Ste. 3. 2. There. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. and @TheAPBerry. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. In person. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. 19. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign upAt this point there’s probably more votes of no confidence for Kliavkoff than there are yes votes for SDSU. 7:34 PM · Jul. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. Sign upSee new Tweets. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. twitter. I don’t hate the PAC. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. @MHver3. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. AZ too. ORWA balked because they stand to make more from an uneven distribution model-even if PAC has 2-4 more defections”As I said in a previous tweet: the Buffs are an inevitability. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. ” Confirming through my B12 contacts that according to what has been shared between BY and a few PAC presidents that CW and ION are indeed in talks for PAC12 broadcasting rights. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. Log in. 5% each. This will be my last tweet for a bit. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. Would need to probably add 6. Likes. Ugh. 5% each. Could also mean ND is rethinking. Sign up“Called my source. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. That was a guarantee. (I’m on a mini vacation right now so I haven’t been doing a lot of talking with him the past few days). ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. ·. I actually don’t want more western schools. @CFBKnights. . MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). Talks are indeed dead for a merger. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. OMG I was wrong. 10 Feb 2023 03:36:01Checked with my source regarding B10 proposing half share for ORWA (per Colin Cowherd). @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. Jul 12. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. There’s a catch. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Learn more. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Now it’s been twice verified. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. MHver3 @MHver3. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Taking the four will crush the P12. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. Replying to @MHver3. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Boise. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Show more replies. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. 2. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. That is all. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. AZ has and AZSU problem. ”My source is confident of a few things: 16 Mar 2023 13:22:493:25 AM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. 23. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. ”MHver3 @MHver3. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. Most of it was in depth financials done by our media consultants. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. ”See new Tweets. Quote Tweets. Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. “Still haven’t gotten confirmation or info of the possible meetings for Utah and AZ…”“@MurrDCU They’d be a decent add just for the recruiting area. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. ·. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. March 7th. That’s it. MHver3 on Twitter: "@StevO_1960 It’s in the ESPN contract. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. My source can confirm Colorado is. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. That’s it. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. ”Log in. As did VT. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. Retweets. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). There. . Stanford/Cal 13. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. Quote Tweets. I’ll update as I get more info. Conversation“Slow day for info and the weekend will most likely be the same, so here’s a quote I thought I’d share for discussion: "Yeah, I know where the money is " Yormark when asked about tv money during an interview with 365 Sports. “Also not a damn one of those that laughed at me when I said months ago ACC was going to adopt unequal revenue sharing came back and apologized. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. I don’t normally delete anything. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. 2. Retweets. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. The third is a big market school with a great history that has underperformed in recent years. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. I’ve even called it that myself. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. GIF. @MHver3. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. 2. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. @MHver3. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Previous offer for 24. 2. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. help. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. 2:24 AM · Jul 3, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. Boise is not completely off the table in football. 30 Mar 2023 18:54:47Gonna say it again for everyone in the back playing with graphs and charts on Excel: Fox has already approved pro rata for the B12 to add specific teams so they will not get “only $20m” they will get the full share. The truth is that’s where the PAC is valued at right now because the bottom half of the remnants are really dragging down the top half in. Look for a thread soon. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. ”Log in. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. read image description. 3 — is made for TV. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Retweets. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. They are looking at 1. “@vikingburner Seton Hall is no longer an option. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. ”Log in. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote Tweets. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. 7. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. Likes. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. Log in. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. That’s it. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Miguel. 2.